Laurens Bakker, my co-supervisor sent me an email from Macau, a link of a documentary about 1965 killings. He wrote :
just found another one by Al-Jazeera. Interviews are interesting, I was struck by the lack of regret of the killers.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9oebCcE6-k
I have seen that video, and I replied:
Yes I saw it already. I can ‘understand’ why he (the Balinese old man and Anwar Congo who used to be an executor in 1965-1965 mass killings) did not show any regret. He (Anwar) and his interests as a gangster was personally threatened by Communist youths prior to the killings. His hatred was merged and fuelled with propaganda from the military at that time that said the PKI as the traitor of the nation. With the cruel and brutal images of the party continuously spread by the military, it could be understood that he felt that what he did was right.
The movie shows however, that sometimes he felt guilty as well, and he (also another guy, his friend named Adi) tried to find a justification, otherwise, as they themselves said, could be insane because of the conflict in their mind
yes, you’re right in that. Quite probably realizing -or doubting- at some point that such killings were wrong, would be horrible for one’s state of mind. Similar things have been recorded for nazi killers. Makes me wonder how official state executioners cope. Can’t be an easy job even with justification. When are you off to Indonesia?
I then added: